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Poster: BryanE Date: Sep 7, 2007 3:37pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: RHINO RECORDS SCUMBAGS

In answer to the one question posed in the thread about paying for downloads, but addressing the topic in general, gotta lean towards no, which actually means maybe, but it would actually be yes if it was something that was really, really important to me, which is highly unlikely that it would be THAT important because what with, oh I don't know, feeding the family, keeping lights in the house, making sure water comes out of the faucet while making sure gasoline keeps burning in the tank so I can make it to work in order to earn the paycheck that pays for the food, the lights, and the water, not to mention the cable bill, enabling me to inject MY fine how-do-you-do's into the debate here and I'm sorry what was the question? Rhino? Do I give a flying fuck about Rhino? Not really. I liked 'em better back when they were kind of an upstart/underground fly-by-night operation and only those of us who were really in-the-know about where to score strange indie rock and cool bootlegs of everyone from Lou Reed to Alice Cooper always relied on the little mimeographed fliers that were distributed by them at record conventions simply as handouts courtesy of a couple of shabbily-dressed geeks planted in the convention hall by those ever-lovin' radicals at Rhino. SOMEBODY there had a head for business. Gotta give 'em that. What would Jerry have wanted? How should I know? You want to get fired up about something? Look all across every news channel this afternoon and watch as all of them try to scrutinize what's being disseminated from this new Bin Laden tape while every talking head in the country asks the question, "How come we've pissed away a hundred trillion dollars in Iraq but just completely blew off the hunt for THIS guy? Isn't there one single person in Washington who remembers the World Trade Center? What about The Pentagon? Surely some of the people who work there were around when the damned plane flew into their workplace." You want to get fired up about something? Take a look around you at the unbelievably huge number of people in the United States between the ages of 17 and 25 who have died from heroin overdoses over the past five to ten years. You want to take a stand for something? How about standing up for channeling maybe just a small fraction of the money being used to finance The Surge in Iraq so that just a few homes in the 9th Ward of New Orleans can get rebuilt? How about standing up for the countless victims of unchecked police violence in this country without fear that you, yourself, will be the next victim? You want to make something your cause? Consider the ever-growing number of high school dropouts in the United States and try figuring out just what is going on in a country where the value that young people place on their education has diminished to an all-time low, where the interest in learning and broadening one's perspective of the world has dwindled to a level that was unimaginable a generation ago.

But, then again, if this Rhino thing is really what gets you going, so be it. Good luck with that.

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Poster: shirley oldschool Date: Sep 7, 2007 5:04pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: RHINO RECORDS SCUMBAGS

I'll send a few dollars if BE needs a new soapbox.

it's music, man.........Shut the fuck-up

This post was modified by shirley oldschool on 2007-09-08 00:04:03

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Poster: Arbuthnot Date: Sep 7, 2007 4:48pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: RHINO RECORDS SCUMBAGS

no, you shut the fuck up; yes, it's music, but life isn't just about one thing, as Bryan's post so eloquently states; sorry, not trying to start anything, but really, was that response/reply of yours really necessary, or is it just cheap thrills that gets you off

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Poster: BryanE Date: Sep 7, 2007 4:29pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: RHINO RECORDS SCUMBAGS

"Shut the fuck-up ........it's music, man."

You're absolutely right, shirley! Thank God there are people like you who see the big picture. It is so much more important that we stress about Rhino instead of all the trivial minutiae that I mentioned. Please allow me to beg you to forgive me for taking up your time. And should anyone you know or care about it ever lose their home to a natural disaster, I certainly hope that there are no valuable dollars squandered on assisting with their recovery, either, as concerning yourself with it could bite into your enjoyment of the music. Man.

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Poster: shirley oldschool Date: Sep 7, 2007 4:49pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: RHINO RECORDS SCUMBAGS

too political, that's all.

Rhino does some good things with archived music that's just collecting dust.

I wonder if the quality control folks a rhino are reviewing ALL recorded show to present the VERY BEST OF THE GRATEFUL DEAD to all loyal fans. But judging by the last few releases, I doubt it.

I've purchased some rhino stuff that's just collecting dust, but that doesn't mean I won't play 'Madden '09' and huddle to bucket or purchase a future band release.

....and this is my sandwich, so don't even ask.

.........and also, THANK YOU

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Poster: lostmoon Date: Sep 7, 2007 4:07pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: RHINO RECORDS SCUMBAGS

I have collected so much content, paid and/or otherwise, I don't see myself buying more GD.

Maybe JG, but not GD, unless you could buy taper section files for a buck a pop. Now a-days, I spend $15 here and there on Kimock releases at Digital Soundboard to augment what I get here.

Also like the fact they sell some single tracks of other bands.

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Poster: cream-puff-war Date: Sep 7, 2007 9:03pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: RHINO RECORDS, SUNDAZED PLATTERS darkness shrugs

David Hilliard was like one of the Last Poets, but the kids shouting peace peace peace were scared of revolution.


So Hilliard went over the top on November 15, 1969 at the Golden Gate Park Moratorium... The kids boo'd him when he started ranting that rock music wasn't worth fighting for.

He got arrested a week later (all charges were dropped but he was on the list for good afterwards) for the final few words in his speech, which I won't repeat again, the point is... some things are best not said - free speech isn't free everywhere and forever anymore than music is.

It's a drag that the music my generation and your generation together turned the world onto, at least anyone willing to listen, out of love and enthusiasm for a worthy thing, only to have it sold back to us after we already bought it -

I mean, not just the Grateful Dead...

we and I - in late 1963, very early 1964, we echoed the beat of the Beatles - way beyond even Elvis Presley or anyone in popular music before then, WE made them popular, which made them the biggest act entertainment phenonomen ever...

and there've been a few, way before the 4 lads from Liverpool turned left at Greenland...

but not like that, that support their fans gave them, it spread, to all generations, we changed their world and then they changed the whole world and then...
well, you got it right... corporations are just that, corporations.
Making money is what they do. They're generally not in the charity end of things.
They study trends, sunny jim, and market them the way they see fit.
Your opinion, your posts, your famous last words are on the google search engine 20 minutes later.

All the love you give and have given to the no doubt Grateful Dead, is being studied, scrutinized and ultimately ground up into little sausages that are sold right back at ya.

I was there in the late '60s when the Beatles were calling it a day, and the Dead were the next big thing...
protesting greed and hipocracy with 250,000 other peace punks, but we didn't know brown (flush it down) from sunshine (mellow if yellow).

Just like Bill Graham said to the ladies and gentlemen at the GD Fillmore East April 1971 concert who wanted more, more, more - relax alright?

we were the same as today's remote contol phreaks who want their Cake and eat it too, vegan-style without the hydrox grease.
Isn't that special.

Alright, that's enough of cream puff!

Have a month of Sundazed - imho the heir-in-waiting to the once cool Rhino -
Sundazed' psychedelic free music player link is a-ok now...

turn it on, pause it... no registration mess.
non-unobtrusive, no pop-ups, and the little window can be buried under this window if you get the chance tune in once, just for me, that would make me smile;>)

http://www.techwebsound.com/player.html

Sundazed Tech Web of Sound even plays vintage Grateful Dead that Rhino hasn't released yet, such as the alternate backing tracks for the 1965 Scorpio sessions, and their playlist automatically updates and provides in-depth song/artist details at a click:
• Technicolor Web of Sound www.techwebsound.com
notice the streaming photo, in Bob Dylan's eye sockets, of a clean shaven Jerry Garcia!
Or,well- he could've used a hair cut, ha ha.

The Technicolor Web of Sound plays the best 60s psychedelic rock music from the classics to incredibly obscure gems. To complement the comprehensive playlist, TWOS also includes authentic, vintage 60s period radio commercials, thick air and lossless quadrophenic static.

No more mr. nasty guy!


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Poster: bluedevil Date: Sep 7, 2007 9:03pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: RHINO RECORDS, SUNDAZED PLATTERS darkness shrugs

smile (hey, that might make a good title for a work...)

I tuned in and have bookmarked - thanks for the heads up.

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Poster: BryanE Date: Sep 8, 2007 3:22pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: RHINO RECORDS, SUNDAZED PLATTERS darkness shrugs

Better check with Brian Wilson first: Smile might be copyrighted.

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Sep 8, 2007 4:27pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: RHINO RECORDS, SUNDAZED PLATTERS darkness shrugs

and/or with Van Dyke Parks

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Poster: cream-puff-war Date: Sep 9, 2007 6:23pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: RHINO RECORDS, SUNDAZED PLATTERS darkness shrugs

call it smiley-smile! That's never been used, right?

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Poster: cream-puff-war Date: Sep 7, 2007 9:09pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: RHINO RECORDS, SUNDAZED PLATTERS darkness shrugs

:->

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